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Post by Chumbles on Jan 8, 2020 16:07:46 GMT
Idiots in this cuntry point sneering at corruption in places like African and SA states, but it's rife, albeit on a smaller scale in ours ... In local government working at a senior level you come across examples - I know of 4 separate £100k+ cases where this took place. It's operated through the awarding of contracts for infrastructure schemes. No-one questions why HS2 estimates have jumped from £33b to £82b at a time of low inflation. Accountancy firms are complicit in these, multifunctional entities incorporating such firms have covert cross firm relationships so they can audit each other's work.
The lack of a body or force empowered to "follow the money" is a weakness in our government at all levels ... it's sold to us as "the art of compromise"... I left two jobs over this; with one I had a meeting with the UK company's CEO (a friend of my bro) whom I told him the incredible lie being sold to his customers in the UK by corporate with the connivance not only of his own marketing department but also the customer's treasurer in one case.
And it's present in nearly all local government irrespective of party. And that's without bringing into question the national level of bribery and corruption that shelters behind 'aid'... The corruption in India aside (which is truly monumental and mostly home grown), the fact that so many third world countries have endemic corruption is that it has been taught to them... BAe's and Boeing's bribes to Saudi are a beacon of irresponsible trading, even ignoring USA's local and national indirect subsidies...
Bah!
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Post by Chumbles on Jan 8, 2020 16:20:49 GMT
Welcome sculptureofman to the 'box... we are the Sabbelkistler  (© tenthenemy, 2019... err the word for us 'boxers ... not the dawg) |
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Post by Sheep2 on Jan 8, 2020 16:22:47 GMT
Well the HS2 estimates were known to be low balled to get approval anyway
I see Crossrail has been put back again.
I am wondering if they have broken through into the dragons' den. It is 2020 after all.
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Post by RollingEscargot on Jan 8, 2020 16:48:56 GMT
Games chat. I’ve given up with Outer Worlds because it’s really boring and shonky as hell. I have now started Sekiro, which is really hard. Last night I beat the man on a horse after around 20 tries. I have cone to the same conclusion about OW. Like FNV on the surface but no atmosphere. Might try God of War next. |
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Post by amipal on Jan 8, 2020 17:08:03 GMT
Games chat. I’ve given up with Outer Worlds because it’s really boring and shonky as hell. I have now started Sekiro, which is really hard. Last night I beat the man on a horse after around 20 tries. I have cone to the same conclusion about OW. Like FNV on the surface but no atmosphere. Might try God of War next. Dragon Quest Builders 2 wants a word. |
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Post by RollingEscargot on Jan 8, 2020 17:10:04 GMT
I have cone to the same conclusion about OW. Like FNV on the surface but no atmosphere. Might try God of War next. Dragon Quest Builders 2 wants a word. What's the core pitch? Are there many killings? |
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Post by amipal on Jan 8, 2020 17:23:58 GMT
Dragon Quest Builders 2 wants a word. What's the core pitch? Are there many killings? DQ meets Minecraft. The only killing comes from dealing with nasties around the map. |
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Post by Faceless on Jan 8, 2020 17:45:53 GMT
I'm only an hour or so into the Outer Worlds. I have to go somewhere and do something for a man in a hat, but some other group want me to stitch him up. I kind of want to kill all of them, but this doesn't seem to be an option.
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Post by tenthenemy on Jan 8, 2020 19:12:32 GMT
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Post by crankcaller on Jan 8, 2020 19:19:48 GMT
I'm only an hour or so into the Outer Worlds. I have to go somewhere and do something for a man in a hat, but some other group want me to stitch him up. I kind of want to kill all of them, but this doesn't seem to be an option. You can kill the wifey you're sent to talk to / turn off power. But her chums get a bit arsey about it. |
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Post by crankcaller on Jan 8, 2020 19:55:42 GMT
First bin night of 2020
First Asda order night of 2020
Before enlightenment chop wood, carry water.
After enlightenment chop wood, carry water.
Calm down kane.
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Post by Sheep2 on Jan 8, 2020 20:10:11 GMT
Top tip
Save time and effort by getting Asda to deliver 90% directly to the landfill site and 20% to a recycling centre.
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Post by Chumbles on Jan 8, 2020 20:18:22 GMT
Top tip Save time and effort by getting Asda to deliver 90% directly to the landfill site and 20% to a recycling centre. If they sell you, I favour the landfill. Very little offence meant. All: I see no one's had the resolve to read my raging WoT against the disease corruption. In other news I am having a slice of wholemeal toast and a yoghurt ... not very exciting I know. |
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Post by Shenguin on Jan 8, 2020 20:27:48 GMT
I read it. I thought about replying that one of our IT contractors recently offered me a free two-day conference in London, including free travel and hotels, free wine, and a free gourmet experience, whatever the fuck that is. I'd probably have preferred dinner.
I turned it down.
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Post by BigG74 on Jan 8, 2020 20:47:45 GMT
One of my friends has access to Anthrax, he is involved in providing occupational health care and apparently one of their labs has a small amount. Apparently the amount is so small it is impossible to cause an outbreak though. Anyhoo, that should be enough to put this forum on some sort of government watch list for the foreseeable future. "One of my friends has access to Anthrax" Spotify? Bring the noise. |
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Post by RollingEscargot on Jan 8, 2020 20:48:30 GMT
I reckon you are right chumbles, all big organisations have this kind of thing, though there would be a discussion to be had about where the line is for it to be classified as corruption. The sort of thing Shenguin mentions is normal in a lot of walks of life - I've got a friend who works for a bank and his job is literally to shmooze clients (no doubt including councils etc) with nights out, corporate boxes at football and so on. The thing that really makes me angry about all this is that nobody has ever tried to bribe me with any of this stuff. I'd bite their fucking hands off.
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Post by Shenguin on Jan 8, 2020 21:00:34 GMT
I remember the first time I got really drunk at a conference, with a really sophisticated pretty young woman buying me all the drinks. Fortunately I had already realised she was from a recruitment firm trying to get us to use them, so I didn't hit on her.
Oh fuck me. Just hit me: perhaps I called it wrong.
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Post by BigG74 on Jan 8, 2020 21:01:33 GMT
I have an old Anthrax single somewhere. I bought it for about 20p back in the day. They were not that good. Madhouse, what made you post that here? |
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Post by BabyfarkmcGeezak on Jan 8, 2020 21:15:02 GMT
I reckon you are right chumbles, all big organisations have this kind of thing, though there would be a discussion to be had about where the line is for it to be classified as corruption. The sort of thing Shenguin mentions is normal in a lot of walks of life - I've got a friend who works for a bank and his job is literally to shmooze clients (no doubt including councils etc) with nights out, corporate boxes at football and so on. The thing that really makes me angry about all this is that nobody has ever tried to bribe me with any of this stuff. I'd bite their fucking hands off. Hey man my job is to get shmoozed! Lots of fine dining has been had. |
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Post by Chumbles on Jan 8, 2020 21:20:09 GMT
I'm not being holier than thou ref corruption, but there is a hell of a difference between the booze and schmooze stuff and framing requests for tender to favour a company, leaking the other bids to that company who then come in lowest cost by dropping an essential element. The contract gets awarded to that company.
They then come back after breaking ground, saying there's a needed missing element* which cost would have made them by far and away the highest bidder ... THAT'S corruption.
*which even an "A" level Geography student (i.e. me) said was needed.
Star Wars fanfilm, brilliant stuff if you remember the old sit-in tie fighter arcade game. There was one at Whitley Bay, which I inhabited for a weekend
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Post by Faceless on Jan 8, 2020 22:01:26 GMT
I'm only an hour or so into the Outer Worlds. I have to go somewhere and do something for a man in a hat, but some other group want me to stitch him up. I kind of want to kill all of them, but this doesn't seem to be an option. You can kill the wifey you're sent to talk to / turn off power. But her chums get a bit arsey about it. it's all been resolved without any violence, which was slightly disappointing. |
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Post by RollingEscargot on Jan 8, 2020 22:07:10 GMT
Yeah there was a documentary a few years ago about Edinburgh City Council doing more or less exactly that with contracts for building maintenance. Looked like it started with a few guys doing each other small favours, and spiralled from there.
Ottm: the Jonestown documentary on bbc4 yesterday and today is quite something.
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Post by Ozymandias Kane on Jan 8, 2020 22:11:55 GMT
First bin night of 2020 First Asda order night of 2020 Before enlightenment chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment chop wood, carry water. Calm down kane. Always chop wood and carry water calmly! "There is much wisdom to be learned from chopping wood and carrying water"! |
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Post by Destry on Jan 8, 2020 22:35:48 GMT
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Post by Sheep2 on Jan 8, 2020 23:00:32 GMT
A gourmet experience almost certainly ends with Shenguin eating a waffer thin mint.
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