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Post by lazybones on Mar 12, 2021 14:22:35 GMT
I definitely prefer brown sauce to tomato ketchup - though HP Fruity Sauce is probably my favourite (if it still exists).
I would only really eat ketchup on chips, though I sort of prefer mayonnaise. In practice I would usually use an excessive amount of both and make myself feel sick.
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Post by lazybones on Mar 12, 2021 14:31:34 GMT
I am thinking Daisy Duke short. Though even in the 1980s I knew that having a Confederate flag on a car was not a harmless fancy.
I do wonder what Bo and Luke Duke would have thought about the tearing down of the General Lee statue.
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Post by lazybones on Mar 12, 2021 14:35:59 GMT
Morning dark dischargers! Cracking time in the ‘heim last night, I discovered the stone building thing on the edge of the Black Forest wasn’t an enemy camp, it was an empty camp. I can’t build with stone yet but went about snazzing it up with wood and thatch. I now have a massive two floor half stone half wood fortress on the edge of the Black Forest, with two separate entrances, a bed, and most of a roof. Have you done any of the bosses yet lazy? I think your supposed to do the first one before venturing into the Black Forest. I’m probably hench enough but I’ve been putting it off.
I haven't.
I saw, on my map, that one of them was based over on the other side of a river, which I've since traversed.
It is the heart of the Black Forest though, from what I can see. A bit perilous for me at the moment.
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Post by Sheep2 on Mar 12, 2021 14:48:53 GMT
I am thinking Daisy Duke short. Though even in the 1980s I knew that having a Confederate flag on a car was not a harmless fancy.
I do wonder what Bo and Luke Duke would have thought about the tearing down of the General Lee statue.
It's pretty uncomfortable that until the mid 1980s CBS thought it was ok to make a TV program, marketed as family entertainment, that used openly racist tropes and yet did not see it as a racist program. And that the BBC didn't see anything wrong in showing it in primetime. It's as if Only Fools and Horses instead of having a crassly sexist banner on the van had an NF banner van. |
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Post by lazybones on Mar 12, 2021 14:56:19 GMT
I wrote to Jim'll Fix It asking for Jim to fix me a ride in the General Lee.
Good people on both sides.
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Post by lazybones on Mar 12, 2021 15:00:47 GMT
I watched an episode of Phoenix Nights last night, and there was a scene in which two Japanese men are lampooned, trying to stir-fry frozen chips.
Felt racist. I didn't like it. I don't remember thinking it was that racist first time round. But then it was also the era of Banzai.
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Post by lazybones on Mar 12, 2021 15:08:30 GMT
It's pretty uncomfortable that until the mid 1980s CBS thought it was ok to make a TV program, marketed as family entertainment, that used openly racist tropes and yet did not see it as a racist program. And that the BBC didn't see anything wrong in showing it in primetime. It's as if Only Fools and Horses instead of having a crassly sexist banner on the van had an NF banner van. In 1994 Primal Scream released an album with the Confederate flag on the front too. I sort of see why some people say it isn't necessarily racist, but it's got some heavy associations. |
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Post by tenthenemy on Mar 12, 2021 15:13:18 GMT
I first got an email address around 1993 at university in order to communicate with my Pref. Mam. He was one of the first ones at his university to recognise the potential of email while others thought that computers were just a fad that would probably go away soon. Both of us had to hike to an IT centre to use email, which in my case was on the other side of the town. It was only slightly more convenient than writing and sending cuneiform tablets.
In the years that followed I heard of the wonders of the internet, but I didn't get to experience its joys and distinctive dial-up tone until about 1999. I still use my ancient Yahoo! email address to this day.
Re: ketchup, usually I only have ketchup with chips. My preferred choice is Stokes ketchup. When one of my granddaughters was younger we gave her some with her lunch. As soon as she had tasted it, a smile came over her face and one could practically see the addiction being formed.
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Post by dakylosaurus419 on Mar 12, 2021 15:17:59 GMT
Is 3pm on a Friday a reasonable time to stop work?
Or to phrase it differently, is it ok to start drinking at 3pm on a Friday?
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Post by Sheep2 on Mar 12, 2021 15:19:44 GMT
Would you accept that releasing something with a Swastika flag on it isn't necessarily neo-Nazi?
If you haven't been brought up in the Southern USA and are white I can see that the flag is more a historical thing. It doesn't seem a living issue.
In some of the Southern states of the USA though it is clearly used as a white supremacist symbol. And expressing (emotional) support for the Confederacy is used as a shorthand for racism.
I would guess that primal Scream were more ignorant and ill-advised rather than deliberately racist. Though if you use a symbol you should be aware of its meaning.
My mum has some old cards sent to her family in the 1920s from relatives working in India (probably oppressing people). They are covered in swastikas. Casually, in different colours, not in a Nazi way. It is most odd to see them.
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Post by Sheep2 on Mar 12, 2021 15:22:20 GMT
Is 3pm on a Friday a reasonable time to stop work? Or to phrase it differently, is it ok to start drinking at 3pm on a Friday? When I worked in central London we'd all go to the pub for at 3 pints on a Friday lunchtime. One of the bosses used to have 4 or sometimes 5. He would not be back until 2.15 if he had 5. It was most impressive. Though he did die of complications from alcoholism at a younger age than I am now. What I am saying is you are two hours late to the party. |
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Post by sandybahookie on Mar 12, 2021 15:30:01 GMT
When I was about 16/17 we were into skating, baggy jeans and bandanas. My bandana was confederate flag design.
I plead ignorance. But I will say that it works a treat as a bandana, you can fold it a few ways, stars work well, good colours etc.
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Post by lazybones on Mar 12, 2021 15:33:37 GMT
Would you accept that releasing something with a Swastika flag on it isn't necessarily neo-Nazi? If you haven't been brought up in the Southern USA and are white I can see that the flag is more a historical thing. It doesn't seem a living issue. In some of the Southern states of the USA though it is clearly used as a white supremacist symbol. And expressing (emotional) support for the Confederacy is used as a shorthand for racism. I would guess that primal Scream were more ignorant and ill-advised rather than deliberately racist. Though if you use a symbol you should be aware of its meaning. My mum has some old cards sent to her family in the 1920s from relatives working in India (probably oppressing people). They are covered in swastikas. Casually, in different colours, not in a Nazi way. It is most odd to see them. I mean I guess that if you live in the deep south and feel an identification with it as being quite different from the north, then you might still brandish the Confederate flag as a symbol of that, without necessarily holding racist views yourself ...
It's kind of similar to the way people are attached to the Union Jack / Union flag despite its associations with slavery and imperialist subjugation. Or the way people vaunt Winston Churchil as being the best British Prime Minister ever, despite the fact that he was an actual white supremacist. I mean Brett Anderson ... Brett Anderson wrapped himself in the Union Jack in 1993 ... I know these things aren't really the same, but they're similar. If you squint your eyes and make things look a bit blurry then maybe there are similarities ... |
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Post by RollingEscargot on Mar 12, 2021 15:33:39 GMT
According to his wikipedia page, Bobby Gillespie was actually from the deep south (Mount Florida / King's Park).
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Post by Sheep2 on Mar 12, 2021 15:41:37 GMT
Would you accept that releasing something with a Swastika flag on it isn't necessarily neo-Nazi? If you haven't been brought up in the Southern USA and are white I can see that the flag is more a historical thing. It doesn't seem a living issue. In some of the Southern states of the USA though it is clearly used as a white supremacist symbol. And expressing (emotional) support for the Confederacy is used as a shorthand for racism. I would guess that primal Scream were more ignorant and ill-advised rather than deliberately racist. Though if you use a symbol you should be aware of its meaning. My mum has some old cards sent to her family in the 1920s from relatives working in India (probably oppressing people). They are covered in swastikas. Casually, in different colours, not in a Nazi way. It is most odd to see them. I mean I guess that if you live in the deep south and feel an identification with it as being quite different from the north, then you might still brandish the Confederate flag as a symbol of that, without necessarily holding racist views yourself ...
It's kind of similar to the way people are attached to the Union Jack / Union flag despite its associations with slavery and imperialist subjugation. Or the way people vaunt Winston Churchil as being the best British Prime Minister ever, despite the fact that he was an actual white supremacist. I mean Brett Anderson ... Brett Anderson wrapped himself in the Union Jack in 1993 ... I know these things aren't really the same, but they're similar. If you squint your eyes and make things look a bit blurry then maybe there are similarities ... I don't think Brett would make things blurry. He's not a big fan of Damon by all accounts. |
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Post by Felice Landry on Mar 12, 2021 15:44:41 GMT
Is 3pm on a Friday a reasonable time to stop work? Or to phrase it differently, is it ok to start drinking at 3pm on a Friday? Isn't that the time you get back from the pub to pack up your stuff before going back? <edit>Should have read the rest of the posts before writing this, damn you Sheep. |
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Post by crankcaller on Mar 12, 2021 15:56:54 GMT
According to his wikipedia page, Bobby Gillespie was actually from the deep south (Mount Florida / King's Park). If you were bundled into a van and dropped off in kings park or craw'foot you'd never find your way out. All the streets look the same. No wonder he turned to drugs. |
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Post by Sheep2 on Mar 12, 2021 15:58:04 GMT
Felice
I used to have to work Friday afternoons.
Two of us, sometimes more, would regularly go to the pub straight after work on a Friday. 1-2.10pm, 5pm -7pm (sometimes 11pm).
I once woke up early on a Saturday convinced I'd lost a work laptop only to find I'd somehow remembered and carried it home despite having had crisps for dinner.
I miss pubs.
I also miss being in my 20s.
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Post by amipal on Mar 12, 2021 16:25:22 GMT
tenthenemyStokes ketchup is an acceptable alternative.
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Post by amipal on Mar 12, 2021 16:26:38 GMT
Amipal turning up with his own condements at bbq's. Some sort of converted toolbelt with heinz tomato sauce and a salad cream in case they have aoili or mayo. How do you know about my sauce belt? |
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Post by lazybones on Mar 12, 2021 16:28:17 GMT
I'm wondering if this pandemic has killed the appeal of pubs for me.
The last one I went to, I think in August, I had to sit outside with a squashy plastic pint glass of Guinness. But then - even before then ...
Pubs without cigarettes lack something. Ah I can't help how I feel.
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Post by amipal on Mar 12, 2021 16:29:31 GMT
My mum has some old cards sent to her family in the 1920s from relatives working in India (probably oppressing people). They are covered in swastikas. Casually, in different colours, not in a Nazi way. It is most odd to see them. An ex’s father had some textiles around his flat with swastikas on them, and he was Indian. An ancient symbol of good luck. Notably, the Nazi’s purloined it for themselves and used it back to front. The Finnish Air Force also used the symbol in WW2, though the “correct” way round. |
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Post by lazybones on Mar 12, 2021 16:43:31 GMT
The spiral - symbol of life.
Never reverse that symbol.
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Post by Felice Landry on Mar 12, 2021 16:44:40 GMT
Felice I used to have to work Friday afternoons. Two of us, sometimes more, would regularly go to the pub straight after work on a Friday. 1-2.10pm, 5pm -7pm (sometimes 11pm). I once woke up early on a Saturday convinced I'd lost a work laptop only to find I'd somehow remembered and carried it home despite having had crisps for dinner. I miss pubs. I also miss being in my 20s. In the Civil Service on Fridays in the late 80s/early 90s, we used to go to the pub from 1ish to 3ish, go back for an hour and then start again usually until 11, then sometimes go clubbing. I'd die if I did that now. |
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Post by Shenguin on Mar 12, 2021 16:48:09 GMT
In second-hand bookshops it's quite easy to find books from the first couple of decades of the 20th century with Swastikas on them. It's clearly not intended to be racist. They're often Rudyard Kipling books though, so the words probably are racist.
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