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Post by MrTiddles on Aug 12, 2022 12:50:57 GMT
Genuine question - how do you know? It's generally said to be hard to trace family lines back further than the 18th century because the parish records aren't good enough before that. Years back I was able to look up my surname and I found out that my fathers side goes back to the 13th cent. I think it was birth deaths and marriages in London (very vague memory). I take it all back. So...you just pump in your surname to an unnamed website and they tell you the earliest record of that name.
That's it? Well, it must be your lineage then.
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Post by RollingEscargot on Aug 12, 2022 12:56:55 GMT
My family can trace our roots back to 16th century Kentish pig farmers. Which roots though? If we call that 500 years, and assume 25 years for a generation, that's 2 to the power of 20 ancestors, or 1,048,576 people you are directly descended from. Obviously we'd need to knock a few off the total to account for inbreeding/cousin marriage and suchlike (no offence), but still, that's a hell of a lot of roots.
Given the population of Britain remained quite low until the nineteenth century, I'd think it's statistically highly likely that quite a few of the people who post on the Chatterbox have at least one common ancestor if you were able go that far back. A village idiot or the like, no doubt.
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Post by Tuffers on Aug 12, 2022 12:57:59 GMT
Someone in the family traced my grandad (on my dad's side) family back to being horse trainers in Scotland. They had come from Ireland and that's where the trail went cold. I'm not sure what a horse trainer did back then, I'm guessing it wasn't grooming the finest thoroughbreds for racing at Ascot.
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Post by dakylosaurus419 on Aug 12, 2022 13:01:43 GMT
Surely not everyone with my surname is the same lineage? There could be more than one Dakyl family out there.
Evening fellow microfestival attendees!
We've got workmen coming round this afternoon, so I've put on trousers and am patiently waiting for them to arrive. I've already practiced saying 'oi allrrighhtt matte ows things round your ends? fancy a cuppa?'.
Games - too hot. TV - too hot.
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Post by Shenguin on Aug 12, 2022 13:07:25 GMT
My family can trace our roots back to 16th century Kentish pig farmers. Which roots though? If we call that 500 years, and assume 25 years for a generation, that's 2 to the power of 20 ancestors, or 1,048,576 people you are directly descended from. Obviously we'd need to knock a few off the total to account for inbreeding/cousin marriage and suchlike (no offence), but still, that's a hell of a lot of roots. Given the population of Britain remained quite low until the nineteenth century, I'd think it's statistically highly likely that quite a few of the people who post on the Chatterbox have at least one common ancestor if you were able go that far back. A village idiot or the like, no doubt.
You need to knock off quite a lot more than a few for criss-crossing lineages. Almost everyone in the British Isles who isn't a (relatively) recent immigrant almost certainly has a common ancestor within the last 400 years or so. I.e. one single individual who by some tangled branch or other is the common ancestor of of well over 50m British people. Statistics and anthropology, innit? Although I have definitely heard Sheep deny that he and I share any common ancestry whatsoever. |
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Post by RollingEscargot on Aug 12, 2022 13:09:10 GMT
Which roots though? If we call that 500 years, and assume 25 years for a generation, that's 2 to the power of 20 ancestors, or 1,048,576 people you are directly descended from. Obviously we'd need to knock a few off the total to account for inbreeding/cousin marriage and suchlike (no offence), but still, that's a hell of a lot of roots. Given the population of Britain remained quite low until the nineteenth century, I'd think it's statistically highly likely that quite a few of the people who post on the Chatterbox have at least one common ancestor if you were able go that far back. A village idiot or the like, no doubt.
You need to knock off quite a lot more than a few for criss-crossing lineages. Fair point, I forgot we were talking about Kent. |
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Post by Shenguin on Aug 12, 2022 13:11:37 GMT
Anyway, enough of this staring backwards. Look to the future; I think we can all agree that the one thing chatterboxers mustn't be allowed to do is breed. We can stop it all here, in this generation, the power is in our hands.
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Post by sandybahookie on Aug 12, 2022 13:17:08 GMT
Rowntrees Watermelon ice lollies. Get in about them. Tremendous. That sounds good |
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Post by BabyfarkmcGeezak on Aug 12, 2022 13:26:19 GMT
I expect a lot of those trace your ancestors services are total bollocks. They just lazily run through publicly available data and produce some bullshit at the end.
You know what else is total bollocks? Those carbon offsetting places, completely un-regulated and not audited.
The heat is getting me.
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Post by sandybahookie on Aug 12, 2022 13:27:39 GMT
Obviously half the ancestry stuff is all wrong due to infidelity. All of our great great grandads were probably travelling onion salesmen.
Except people from Fife, Fife is the Madagascar of lineages an unspoilt sample of human genetics that goes back 1000s of years without any outsider dna permitted. One big happy family.
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Post by Ozymandias Kane on Aug 12, 2022 13:27:58 GMT
Off topic, if you ever wondered about dedication here is something to inspire you.
I felt the need to post this.
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Post by Ozymandias Kane on Aug 12, 2022 13:31:10 GMT
Years back I was able to look up my surname and I found out that my fathers side goes back to the 13th cent. I think it was birth deaths and marriages in London (very vague memory). I take it all back. So...you just pump in your surname to an unnamed website and they tell you the earliest record of that name.
That's it? Well, it must be your lineage then.
In London in the 80's/90's you could do that. |
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Post by RollingEscargot on Aug 12, 2022 13:32:28 GMT
Obviously half the ancestry stuff is all wrong due to infidelity. All of our great great grandads were probably travelling onion salesmen. Except people from Fife, Fife is the Madagascar of lineages an unspoilt sample of human genetics that goes back 1000s of years without any outsider dna permitted. One big happy family. Can confirm. |
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Post by stxdpr on Aug 12, 2022 13:32:43 GMT
Family trees or if from Norfolk several families from one bush.
If you are interested why not try one of the trace your DNA kits so the DNA can be used to arrest you or one of your relatives?
I'm not sure the DNA swab to find out what mixes pets are is an appropriate use of science.
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Post by Sheep2 on Aug 12, 2022 13:43:07 GMT
Which roots though? If we call that 500 years, and assume 25 years for a generation, that's 2 to the power of 20 ancestors, or 1,048,576 people you are directly descended from. Obviously we'd need to knock a few off the total to account for inbreeding/cousin marriage and suchlike (no offence), but still, that's a hell of a lot of roots. Given the population of Britain remained quite low until the nineteenth century, I'd think it's statistically highly likely that quite a few of the people who post on the Chatterbox have at least one common ancestor if you were able go that far back. A village idiot or the like, no doubt.
You need to knock off quite a lot more than a few for criss-crossing lineages. Almost everyone in the British Isles who isn't a (relatively) recent immigrant almost certainly has a common ancestor within the last 400 years or so. I.e. one single individual who by some tangled branch or other is the common ancestor of of well over 50m British people. Statistics and anthropology, innit? Although I have definitely heard Sheep deny that he and I share any common ancestry whatsoever. i can actually trace my ancestry back to the original protozoa. 6 generations ago. We don't have the paperwork to prove it though. My Irish and Scottish ancestors did not like or understand paperwork. The y did not have the 19th century version of an Excel spreadsheet to track everything. Idiots. |
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Post by Sheep2 on Aug 12, 2022 13:48:00 GMT
Great Great Great Great Grandad Harry the Protozoa- Great Great Great Grandfather multi-celled bacteria Harry Jr - Scottish great great grandfather Bob (known as Harry) - Irish Great grandfather James (also known as Harry) - Irish Grandfather Harry the very junior-Father- me
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Post by lazybones on Aug 12, 2022 13:56:02 GMT
I got my mum a DNA testing kit for her birthday once. Mainly because she was interested in genealogy. I thought it was a good idea at first. Then when I presented it I thought it maybe appeared a bit strange. Then she did the test and I thought it was ok again.
There were lots of DNA ‘hits’ in Spain and South America. Also two Ashkenazic Jewish genetic markers. I don’t know why these were even in the test. Maybe the company was set up by an old Nazi geneticist.
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Post by Faceless on Aug 12, 2022 14:00:00 GMT
The reason you can't trace anything back further than the 1800's is because the simulation only goes back that far
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Post by Felice Landry on Aug 12, 2022 14:00:22 GMT
Up in that there London for Pref.Mams. birthday* treat, watching Bill Bailey at the ROH.
Whilst heading to a pub to wait for them I almost headbutted a horse outside Horseguards.
*A few days away.
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Post by Tuffers on Aug 12, 2022 14:01:02 GMT
I thought everything was a simulation. Would "they" give us ancestors that far back?
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Post by Sheep2 on Aug 12, 2022 14:10:45 GMT
Up in that there London for Pref.Mams. birthday* treat, watching Bill Bailey at the ROH. Whilst heading to a pub to wait for them I almost headbutted a horse outside horse guards. *A few days away. No wonder the horses have guards. |
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Post by lazybones on Aug 12, 2022 14:11:42 GMT
I’m on the way to Liverpool.
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Post by Felice Landry on Aug 12, 2022 14:12:58 GMT
As for ancestors the old man traced it back to the Huguenots on his side, my mum was a Mohawk Indian, so it kind of stops there.
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Post by lazybones on Aug 12, 2022 14:16:21 GMT
As for ancestors the old man traced it back to the Huguenots on his side, my mum was a Mohawk Indian, so it kind of stops there. Is this true? |
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Post by Ozymandias Kane on Aug 12, 2022 14:22:08 GMT
Great Great Great Great Grandad Harry the Protozoa- Great Great Great Grandfather multi-celled bacteria Harry Jr - Scottish great great grandfather Bob (known as Harry) - Irish Great grandfather James (also known as Harry) - Irish Grandfather Harry the very junior-Father- me So - you're a Wizard Harry! |
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