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Post by lazybones on Oct 26, 2023 11:13:49 GMT
One of the problems with going into the past would be that you could load your VW camper van (or Mazda Bongo Friendee) with items to bewilder and subdue the people you found back there, but then they would probably find a way to take these items and enact an angry dark age punishment upon you.
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Post by Ozymandias Kane on Oct 26, 2023 11:17:07 GMT
Yes, moving forward stays linear, moving back changes now. I think whatever you did in the past would leave the present unchanged. Because if it wasn’t unchanged you wouldn’t be there in the present to go back into the past. The present that you existed in before you left remains an active line of existence but your time line would be new based on any future events formed from your arrival. That future that you left is now another line, you have effectively 'changed lanes' making a new one, so the future you left is now 'pending' any future actions by you in the time line you make but still existing in it's natural state. |
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Post by Sheep2 on Oct 26, 2023 11:17:08 GMT
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Post by Ozymandias Kane on Oct 26, 2023 11:19:14 GMT
One of the problems with going into the past would be that you could load your VW camper van (or Mazda Bongo Friendee) with items to bewilder and subdue the people you find back there, but then they would probably find a way to take these items and enact an angry dark age punishment upon you. You would be seen as a God that's presuming you can speak the language, up until someone tests you and/or tries to kill you. |
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Post by RollingEscargot on Oct 26, 2023 11:26:22 GMT
I'd go back if I could look like Geralt of Rivia and have all his fighting and magic skills. However, I'd have to keep my own hair in case the people mistook me for an ancestor of Robbie Savage and tried to kill me to save the future.
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Post by lazybones on Oct 26, 2023 11:28:09 GMT
I think whatever you did in the past would leave the present unchanged. Because if it wasn’t unchanged you wouldn’t be there in the present to go back into the past. The present that you existed in before you left remains an active line of existence but your time line would be new based on any future events formed from your arrival. That future that you left is now another line, you have effectively 'changed lanes' making a new one, so the future you left is now 'pending' any future actions by you in the time line you make but still existing in it's natural state. I think it would be more like one continuous space-time ‘block’. So the things you did in the past would be already done. When you go into the past you would feel you were acting freely but would just do what you were destined to do. |
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Post by lazybones on Oct 26, 2023 11:32:20 GMT
I would like to be able to moon about like Merlin in ‘Excalibur’ but I’m not sure how far my 21st century box of tricks would cut it.
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Post by whatalark on Oct 26, 2023 11:38:31 GMT
twitter.com/WeirdMedievalThis is some tremendous stuff. Not all of it is SFW. I expect RollingEscargot already subscribes to a medieval porn site.. There are a number of Facebook groups that do this stuff. |
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Post by Ozymandias Kane on Oct 26, 2023 11:48:42 GMT
The present that you existed in before you left remains an active line of existence but your time line would be new based on any future events formed from your arrival. That future that you left is now another line, you have effectively 'changed lanes' making a new one, so the future you left is now 'pending' any future actions by you in the time line you make but still existing in it's natural state. I think it would be more like one continuous space-time ‘block’. So the things you did in the past would be already done. When you go into the past you would feel you were acting freely but would just do what you were destined to do. Unfortunately if there is no record of you actions in the past then it becomes a thing in it's own right and a separate time line, this is one of the paradox's that always cause heavy debates within the science community. |
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Post by lazybones on Oct 26, 2023 11:56:45 GMT
I think there would be a record of your actions in the past though. If there wasn’t then you couldn’t have gone back there.
Please be realistic.
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Post by lazybones on Oct 26, 2023 12:12:38 GMT
The way I see it is … I’m walking about in the hills of south Wales when I happen across a crack in a cliff-face, perhaps revealed by a landslide. I look inside and find what seems to be the tomb of a dark ages personage. It’s me! In a state of bewilderment I go deeper into the cave where I find a shimmering portal that sucks me into the past ...
After many years of subduing the dark
age populace I go to find the cave in order to return to the present. I’m killed by a bear. My subjects decide, when they find my remains, that the cave would be a good place for my tomb to be concealed, so there I go, only to be discovered by my future self who goes on to get sucked into the past, to live a good life and then get killed by the bear, and so on…
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Post by MrTiddles on Oct 26, 2023 12:17:59 GMT
The Terminator went back to the past, no problems.
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Post by lazybones on Oct 26, 2023 12:18:27 GMT
Common sense at last.
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Post by lazybones on Oct 26, 2023 12:19:16 GMT
The Multiverse concept has a lot to answer for.
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Post by Sheep2 on Oct 26, 2023 12:22:39 GMT
The Terminator lost. That's a pretty big problem.
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Post by Ozymandias Kane on Oct 26, 2023 12:25:24 GMT
I think there would be a record of your actions in the past though. If there wasn’t then you couldn’t have gone back there. Please be realistic. Only if your actions are noteworthy, typical day by day actions would be forgotten, noteworthy wise it would also have to register who you are and that opens another paradox of ancestral lines. |
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Post by lazybones on Oct 26, 2023 12:27:37 GMT
I think there would be a record of your actions in the past though. If there wasn’t then you couldn’t have gone back there. Please be realistic. Only if your actions are noteworthy, typical day by day actions would be forgotten, noteworthy wise it would also have to register who you are and that opens another paradox of ancestral lines. I mean there would have been records of your actions in the sense that they played into the net of causality. |
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Post by sandybahookie on Oct 26, 2023 12:29:05 GMT
You would need a serious solar power rig of some kind. No point to take back computer games, kettles, electric cars, walkmans, lightsabres etc if you cant charge them up.
What could you really take with you to impress the locals that wouldnt be a bit shit after a few days when the batteries ran out?
Cavemen and Morlocks alike would kill and eat you when you ran out of batteries.
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Post by sandybahookie on Oct 26, 2023 12:31:18 GMT
Im on guess 3 on wordle and have 3/5 letters confirmed already, but Im stuck.
Have been staring at it for 10 mins now but Im brain blocked.
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Post by sandybahookie on Oct 26, 2023 12:38:32 GMT
I have the first one and the last two, and my mind cant fill in the two letters in between.
I have things to do so Im going to have to leave it, tres fort annoying
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Post by Ozymandias Kane on Oct 26, 2023 12:40:38 GMT
The way I see it is … I’m walking about in the hills of south Wales when I happen across a crack in a cliff-face, perhaps revealed by a landslide. I look inside and find what seems to be the tomb of a dark ages personage. It’s me! In a state of bewilderment I go deeper into the cave where I find a shimmering portal that sucks me into the past ... After many years of subduing the dark age populace I go to find the cave in order to return to the present. I’m killed by a bear. My subjects decide, when they find my remains, that the cave would be a good place for my tomb to be concealed, so there I go, only to be discovered by my future self who goes on to get sucked into the past, to live a good life and then get killed by the bear, and so on… time loop, you discover your tomb travel back live a life get killed by the bear (buried) then discovered by yourself etc. No change to your present other than the loop you made, the world/friends etc would see that you have disappeared and consider you dead after 5 years. |
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Post by lazybones on Oct 26, 2023 12:44:09 GMT
You could maybe take a gallon of lysergic acid diethylamide. Maybe a high quality safe. An exercise bike, with dynamo? An electronic tablet device, of some sort? Some fireworks. Some clipper lighters? A few gaudy trinkets.
A Martini Henry rifle would also be useful. I think?
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Post by Ozymandias Kane on Oct 26, 2023 12:45:46 GMT
The Terminator went back to the past, no problems. Not so the terminator going back caused a loop because the tech company got hold of his neural chip and created skynet, hence all the other terminators going back trying to kill their enemies John Conner etc and skynet went further back to try and control the situation to get the win. I've seen and have all the films on DVD. |
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Post by whatalark on Oct 26, 2023 12:47:57 GMT
If I went back I'd make sure I took a comfy chair.
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Post by sandybahookie on Oct 26, 2023 12:48:07 GMT
Someone would have stolen the lighters on the first night out for some beers.
Exercise bike with dynamo is a good idea.
Maybe a Kindle with 5000 books of human knowledge on it.
A couple of binbags full of salt and spices and stuff would probably be worth a lot.
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