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Post by Pyjakson on Apr 30, 2019 13:51:39 GMT
If that's the end of the Night King, that was the biggest anti-climax ever.
Also, I'm glad Lyanna Mormont is dead. She would have been a great one off, but they ran that character into the ground.
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Post by BabyfarkmcGeezak on Apr 30, 2019 14:01:50 GMT
Also, I'm glad Lyanna Mormont is dead. She would have been a great one off, but they ran that character into the ground. No, she was squashed like a bug. |
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Post by Faceless on Apr 30, 2019 14:03:06 GMT
Do you think you'd still feel it was an anti climax if it had happened in ep6, rather than 3?
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Post by Faceless on Apr 30, 2019 14:04:05 GMT
I'm not saying you're wrong, just that my opinion is different to yours, and I'm obviously right.
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Post by Pyjakson on Apr 30, 2019 14:07:10 GMT
It was more an anti-climax because there was no big reveal about the Night King, nothing to explain why he was desperate to conquer Westeros or why he needed Bran.
It feels like they built him up for 7 seasons purely for a big battle rather than have him be an intrinsic part of the story.
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Post by Faceless on Apr 30, 2019 14:11:17 GMT
True enough. Although GoT had always felt like a story with no clear direction.
Ever since it started my money was on the white walkers killing everyone. Now I reckon Cersei will end up on't throne.
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Post by BabyfarkmcGeezak on Apr 30, 2019 14:26:40 GMT
It was more an anti-climax because there was no big reveal about the Night King, nothing to explain why he was desperate to conquer Westeros or why he needed Bran. It feels like they built him up for 7 seasons purely for a big battle rather than have him be an intrinsic part of the story. They cobbled together a motive in episode two where the Night King wanted to erase all human history and as Bran could see the past or whatever this made him Target No 1. Obviously he would have been better off attacking Wikipedia HQ. |
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Post by Faceless on Apr 30, 2019 14:29:47 GMT
To be honest the whole story might have been better if they hadn't bothered with any of the night King stuff.
It would have meant John Snoo would have had less reason to act like a tool as well.
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Post by Sheep2 on Apr 30, 2019 14:46:23 GMT
First off there are spoilers in all my posts if you haven't paid attention to GoT.
The children of the Forest created the Night King to protect them from invasion.
However they did not understand what they were doing and the white walkers were a threat to them as much as to men.
The Night King's sole purpose was to destroy men
It is why the wall had to be built.
Bran spent about 4 seasons travelling north to find this out.
This stuff is pretty basic.
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Post by Sheep2 on Apr 30, 2019 14:48:49 GMT
If you thought the Night King was going to have a happy ending you haven't been paying attention.
You win or you die.
In his case you die twice.
Once at the hands of the children of the forest, once stabbed by Arya
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Post by Sheep2 on Apr 30, 2019 14:52:01 GMT
I thought there were clear echoes of Shaun Baun in the death of the Night King.
You build him up. It reaches a point of tension, then it is over very quickly.
You didn't win. Bad luck son.
Try again in the next life
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Post by Sheep2 on Apr 30, 2019 14:57:55 GMT
I am hoping the end of the show is similar. Big fights. Everyone dies. Someone minor and possibly unsuitable becomes king/queen of a completely ruined seven kingdoms.
The show ends with an army or two being raised elsewhere to try to wrest control. Perhaps the Iron Bank sending in an administrator.
If it ends with John and Dany marrying to become joint king and queen I will murder GRRM.
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Post by BabyfarkmcGeezak on Apr 30, 2019 15:28:24 GMT
The problem is they have made the same mistake as Star Wars and killed off the best baddie too early. We now have a pregnant chick (who will probably die to Jamie Lannister), a shit pirate (who will die probably die to his cousin) and that Mountain chap who is rotting away (who will obviously die to the Hound).
Unless they find away to bring back the Night King. Or Bran becomes the Night King. Or Sean Bean becomes the Night King.
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Post by MrTiddles on Apr 30, 2019 15:42:49 GMT
It's a shame Mel Gibson's character was killed off in S5 Ep4.
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Post by Pyjakson on Apr 30, 2019 15:53:15 GMT
I am hoping the end of the show is similar. Big fights. Everyone dies. Someone minor and possibly unsuitable becomes king/queen of a completely ruined seven kingdoms. The show ends with an army or two being raised elsewhere to try to wrest control. Perhaps the Iron Bank sending in an administrator. Rangers did that storyline back in 2012. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 11:06:02 GMT
I'm not sure anyone is arguing that the night king didn't have to die? (Except faceless, but you know..)
It's the manner of his death that bothers me, they have built him up over 7 seasons and given him a pretty robust motive for doing what he does. They've also given Arya plenty of time to train to be the person to kill him. It all makes sense, but it was poorly executed and obviously signposted earlier in that episode with the "blue eyes" comment and the "make me this weapon" schtick in the second episode.
He's shown time and again he was way ahead of the living; at hardhome, the trap to get an ice dragon, catching bran in the North. To then at the moment of ultimate triumph get stabbed by a super human ninja woman, to me, was a cop out.
I now think Gendrie will be on the throne
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Post by scubar on May 1, 2019 12:09:39 GMT
You’re all wrong.
It’s going to end with Bobby Ewing stepping out of the shower talking about a weird dream he had.
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Post by Faceless on May 1, 2019 12:15:11 GMT
I'm not sure anyone is arguing that the night king didn't have to die? (Except faceless, but you know..) I have absolutely no idea what I'm arguing tbh. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2019 22:17:12 GMT
So. That was an episode. What are people's thoughts?
Didn't have a problem with any of the deaths really, they all made sense. I'd have spent less time focusing on euron and clegane-bowl. But still.
The last episode is going to be incredibly interesting, so much still to wrap up.
Does feel like it's been a bit rushed, a few more episode might have been worthwhile for me.
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Post by Faceless on May 14, 2019 6:59:48 GMT
I quite enjoyed it.
I hope all of the characters who appeared to die are actually dead though. I can picture a post-credits epilogue where Cersei, Jamie, the clegaine bros and panto pirate all emerge from the rubble, dust themselves off, give each other the nod, then carry on about their day.
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Post by BabyfarkmcGeezak on May 14, 2019 7:21:05 GMT
I maintain that Tyrion and the Sansa Stark will end up ruling together. John Snow will probably be killed by Daenerys who in turn will be killed by Arya Stark.
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Post by Faceless on May 14, 2019 8:04:51 GMT
Seems like there are a lot of angry nerds on the Internet*. Apparently Daenerys was supposed to be the good guy we've all been rooting for this whole time. I guess I was too focused on the whole power trip, love of burning people alive, daughter of the mad King thing to pick up on that.
*I'm as shocked as you are.
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Post by BabyfarkmcGeezak on May 14, 2019 8:25:40 GMT
Apparently last year year thousands of parents named their daughter Daenerys which I find hilarious now she is a power hungry despot who burns the innocent. And on Mother's Day in the USA too!
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Post by Pyjakson on May 14, 2019 8:43:25 GMT
Her burning the surrendered army I could see, but going after the ordinary folk felt a bit much. She chained up her dragons after some random shepherd boy was burned to a crisp.
The season needed to be longer, nothing has been built up enough to pay off.
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Post by scubar on May 14, 2019 9:29:48 GMT
Nothing has been built up? It’s had 8 years of build up.
Quite the episode, doubt there’ll be any A-Team style crawling out of the rubble though.
Girl with dragons likes to burn things. Who’d have thought?
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