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Post by Sheep2 on May 11, 2021 14:29:18 GMT
Relative to the UK India has not done that badly so far. The UK has reported 150,000 covid linked deaths if you multiply that by 1.4 billion/65 million you need to get to 3.2m deaths before India overtakes the UK on a relative basis. That is before taking in to account the massive differences in medical and social infrastructure, nutrition and relative wealth. At the moment India has recorded 250,000 covid deaths. So even if 90% haven't been reported the UK has still done worse. It is not that what s happening in India isn't appalling - it is. I am amazed people aren't up in arms about what happened in the UK. I genuinely don't understand why Johnson is popular rather than on a pike over London Bridge. If anyone is in doubt read Failures Of State. It is absolutely shocking. And it stops n December 2020, so before the worst point. The trouble with this comparison is, as amipal points out, that numbers in India are no longer reported accurately. Medical professionals, journalists and even the people who run crematoriums are being threatened in order to hide the true scale of the disaster. This is not a conspiracy theory. Which is why I suggested that it could be 10* worse in India than is reported. I don't think it is. Yet. By the time the pandemic is over I do think India will have passed where the UK is both relatively and absolutely. It's probably possible to alleviate the worst still, but it is clear that the world is not responding properly. The stupid thing is that let the virus run through such a large population almost unchecked vastly increases the risk of more variants occurring, some of which may not be controlled by current vaccines. |
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Post by lazybones on May 11, 2021 14:32:05 GMT
I think, because the UK was one of the first countries to be badly affected, it will continue to drop down the word rankings for deaths per million. It was 'up' to about third at some point last year I think.
The good people of 2090 will have a more accurate take on the pandemic, as they punt about in the sun-kissed lagoons.
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Post by lazybones on May 11, 2021 14:33:31 GMT
If I remember, in the board game 'Pandemic', it was a bad business if the outbreaks hit India.
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Post by BabyfarkmcGeezak on May 11, 2021 14:41:26 GMT
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Post by lazybones on May 11, 2021 14:42:18 GMT
The black brain fungus is terrifying.
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Post by lazybones on May 11, 2021 14:44:38 GMT
The glaciers will melt and a flood will come. Even for the fortunate few with the foresight to invest in a Dutch barge the damp will follow, and with it ... the black brain fungus.
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Post by lazybones on May 11, 2021 14:46:04 GMT
I feel exceedingly blessed to have lived in a flat with high levels of damp. There were fungal spores aplenty. My white blood cells know what to do.
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Post by Shenguin on May 11, 2021 14:50:37 GMT
That Chinese rocket landing in the sea is starting to look like a missed opportunity.
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Post by Felice Landry on May 11, 2021 14:57:44 GMT
I think, because the UK was one of the first countries to be badly affected, it will continue to drop down the word rankings for deaths per million. It was 'up' to about third at some point last year I think. The good people of 2090 will have a more accurate take on the pandemic, as they punt about in the sun-kissed lagoons. I'm fairly sure it swept through Europe before getting to the UK. |
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Post by amipal on May 11, 2021 15:02:00 GMT
The stupid thing is that let the virus run through such a large population almost unchecked vastly increases the risk of more variants occurring, some of which may not be controlled by current vaccines. And that is exactly what is happening. The prevalent strain, B.1.617, is both more contagious and has a higher mortality in the younger population. Indians also have a higher risk of cardiovascular problems, which is bad news if they do catch SARS-CoV-2. |
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Post by lazybones on May 11, 2021 15:03:57 GMT
I think, because the UK was one of the first countries to be badly affected, it will continue to drop down the word rankings for deaths per million. It was 'up' to about third at some point last year I think. The good people of 2090 will have a more accurate take on the pandemic, as they punt about in the sun-kissed lagoons. I'm fairly sure it swept through Europe before getting to the UK. You're thinking of the Black Death Italy and Spain had it quite bad early on. I remember that. |
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Post by Faceless on May 11, 2021 15:07:47 GMT
So, it sounds like everyone is in agreement that bad things are bad.
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Post by scamander on May 11, 2021 15:12:42 GMT
I started reading The Decameron which dealt with the Black Death in Florence. Apparently people either hid away and prayed or got together and got pissed. Neither group fared well.
Cheers Boccaccio.
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Post by Shenguin on May 11, 2021 15:14:37 GMT
I've just spent 14 months hiding away and getting pissed. Pretty sure I nailed it and I'll be ok.
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Post by Ozymandias Kane on May 11, 2021 15:23:52 GMT
...but sometimes experiments go horribly wrong. You've met Shenguin then. Kane lives. |
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Post by crankcaller on May 11, 2021 15:26:01 GMT
Had the plumber round. He appeared unannounced during a work zoom call - at the door I mean, he didn't zoom bomb a bunch of pensioners learning about iPads.
He's sorted the hot washer pressure. Brilliant!
The PM has just arrived home and asked if he fixed the dripping tap. Of course I had forgotten about said leaky tap and he needs to come back.
I'm quite popular here as you would imagine...
Stupid Flanders.
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Post by RollingEscargot on May 11, 2021 15:30:32 GMT
No actual way. I had the plumber round too, and he arrived during a work call too!
Am I... a crankcaller sockpuppet..?
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Post by tenthenemy on May 11, 2021 15:30:48 GMT
I've just spent 14 months hiding away and getting pissed. Pretty sure I nailed it and I'll be ok. And I'm pretty sure that it's the people who got together and prayed who fared badly. |
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Post by Felice Landry on May 11, 2021 15:34:03 GMT
No actual way. I had the plumber round too, and he arrived during a work call too!
Am I... a crankcaller sockpuppet..?
Or, you two actually live together and your "work call" was you and Crank sitting opposite each other looking through an empty picture frame. |
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Post by lazybones on May 11, 2021 15:37:55 GMT
I've just spent 14 months hiding away and getting pissed. Pretty sure I nailed it and I'll be ok. And I'm pretty sure that it's the people who got together and prayed who fared badly. I pray. I pray to Siva, 'Let me die', but ... I do not. |
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Post by Sheep2 on May 11, 2021 15:38:18 GMT
I've just spent 14 months hiding away and getting pissed. Pretty sure I nailed it and I'll be ok. Did you even know there has been a pandemic? |
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Post by crankcaller on May 11, 2021 15:48:34 GMT
No actual way. I had the plumber round too, and he arrived during a work call too!
Am I... a crankcaller sockpuppet..?
Or, you two actually live together and your "work call" was you and Crank sitting opposite each other looking through an empty picture frame. We can share a bath again. I've missed that. |
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Post by Faceless on May 11, 2021 15:55:28 GMT
What's worse: black brain fungus, or sheep's WhatsApp joke?
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Post by amipal on May 11, 2021 16:26:42 GMT
What's worse: black brain fungus, or sheep's WhatsApp joke? Neither: it’s the image of crankcaller and RollingEscargot sharing a bath together. |
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Post by Felice Landry on May 11, 2021 17:57:31 GMT
What's worse: black brain fungus, or sheep's WhatsApp joke? Neither: it’s the image of crankcaller and RollingEscargot sharing a bath together. I knew asking a comparison question would lead to shenanigans. |
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