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Post by Destry on Jan 25, 2021 22:30:39 GMT
I'm watching Train To Busan.
To help me forget about the pandemic.
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Post by Destry on Jan 25, 2021 22:38:39 GMT
It's not working.
Great film though.
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Post by Shenguin on Jan 25, 2021 22:38:53 GMT
Virgin Atlantic don’t call it first class, it’s Upperclass and they you off the plane before anyone else and ensure your suitcase is on the belt before anyone else too. I've been invited to leave the plane early, and I've never flown anything other than cheapo class. Oh. I have travelled first class once, by train*, but I'm not generally in favour of putting up with dreadful human beings sitting alongside me on public transport.** *It cost one extra of your English pounds. I missed the train I was meant to be on, but the guard didn't charge me for getting the next train even though my ticket wasn't valid for travel and I should have been charged the full cost of the ticket for the train I was on, and he was polite and understanding. I don't think that would have happened if I had had a standard saver ticket. There was free coffee and a free newspaper. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance. **It's a reference to what Steven Norris, then Transport Minister, said in 1995. Apparently I'm still bitter that Tory ministers were snobbish 26 years ago. |
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Post by Shenguin on Jan 25, 2021 22:40:30 GMT
It's good to hold on to the hate, Shenguin, that's what makes you a happy and well-adjusted little seal.
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Post by Destry on Jan 25, 2021 22:53:38 GMT
Virgin Atlantic don’t call it first class, it’s Upperclass and they you off the plane before anyone else and ensure your suitcase is on the belt before anyone else too. I'm not generally in favour of putting up with dreadful human beings sitting alongside me on public transport. This reminds me of the 3 part drama A Very British Coup (1988, Ch4) based on a novel by a Labour backbench MP Chris Mullin and adapted by Alan Plater, where the Labour party has enjoyed a landslide victory under a far-left leader, Harry Perkins. Travelling by train, he’s asked if he will abolish first class. “No, I’ll abolish second class,” he says. “I think all people are first class, don’t you?” Well worth watching, if you can find it. EDIT: It's on All 4 |
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Post by Felice Landry on Jan 25, 2021 23:17:33 GMT
I was lower* middle class when I was growing up and am middle class now.
The class system has never crossed my radar**, has it affected anyone here?
*Parents with civil service and engineering jobs but not a lot of money, the definition is open to discussion.
**Apart from wanting to be Sebastian Flyte when I was younger***
***and secretly now.
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Post by Destry on Jan 25, 2021 23:42:17 GMT
Working class born and bred I guess. Dad a Turner / Engineer, mother a Housewife / Dinnerlady. Dad a Labour Councillor, founded the local Labour Club.
I reckon I became middle class as defined by socio-economic criteria; went to a Grammar School, then to a Poly, Civil Service job, etc. but still a Socialist at heart. My parents hated Thatcher and Thatcherism and I drank a round on their behalf when the wicked witch was dead.
Don't think much of the current Tory crop either. Spineless, money grabbing cunts the lot of them. 'Nasty party'?
Too fucking true.
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Post by Shenguin on Jan 25, 2021 23:52:46 GMT
Anti-Tory posts and anti-Classism posts? I wish there were a "Love" button, rather than just a "Like" button. Mammal who tolerates me says there is, but I can't find it.
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Post by Felice Landry on Jan 25, 2021 23:56:51 GMT
Not sure political belief is a great signifier of class, lot of middle class Socialists and working class Tories.
The old man was a Tory, my mum apolitical and me a liberal who became a socialist and now is still emotionally a socialist but practically nothing.
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Post by Sheep2 on Jan 26, 2021 0:30:03 GMT
Accent: working class
Qualifications: less so
Whisky: Caol Ila 18 year-old
Music NFR!
Work is the curse of the drinking classes.
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Post by Felice Landry on Jan 26, 2021 0:38:24 GMT
This is interesting, are we talking Arthur Mullard? <edit>I accept that there are other regional working class accents other than cockney, they just don't sound authentic. |
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Post by Sheep2 on Jan 26, 2021 0:48:19 GMT
This is interesting, are we talking Arthur Mullard? <edit>I accept that there are other regional working class accents other than cockney, they just don't sound authentic. Brummie boss. It varies a bit. I can posh up a bit, but it's more than the occasional twang. People used to take the piss in London. Round here though it is reassuringly real. Apparently it is significantly stronger than Shenguin's accent. |
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Post by Sheep2 on Jan 26, 2021 0:52:21 GMT
It is apparently a source of amusement to the older not-child that Shenguin adopts a stronger accent when talking to me.
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Post by Felice Landry on Jan 26, 2021 0:56:15 GMT
Serious question, what is the difference between a Brummie working class accent and a middle class/Posh one?
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Post by Sheep2 on Jan 26, 2021 1:02:33 GMT
Tooth
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Post by Sheep2 on Jan 26, 2021 1:09:36 GMT
One word gives it all away.
My natural pronunciation is tuth (does not rhyme with youth)
Posh Brummies and people from elsewhere say too-th and do not respond well to the correct pronunciation.
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Post by BabyfarkmcGeezak on Jan 26, 2021 6:38:29 GMT
I've been working for half an hour.
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Post by tenthenemy on Jan 26, 2021 8:11:06 GMT
I've been working for half an hour. I read that as "I've been working class for half an hour" and thought that you your attempt to jump on the bandwagon was a bit desperate. |
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