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Post by Destry on Sept 12, 2022 21:24:51 GMT
Presidents are democratically elected. Not selected by 81,000 of the electorate. So BJ being Democratically elected is a good thing? Whatevs, life's too short. You're (deliberately?) missing the point, He was democratically elected as an MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip with a majority of just 7,210 votes. He was selected as Tory party leader ( and thereby PM) by 91,000 of Tory members (or less than 1% of the UK electorate). He was most certainly not democratically elected as Prime Minister. |
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Post by Shenguin on Sept 12, 2022 21:32:27 GMT
It's like the entire country has Stockholm syndrome. She was the beneficiary of a system that harms us all. She did nothing praiseworthy that wasn't also self-serving. She used her power primarily to fortify her own power.
The last few days have been like living in Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Not entirely dissimilar to Brexit.
Fuck the Monarchy, fuck the self-serving elites who support it, and fuck the jingoistic self-harming nonsense.
And fuck the Met police for good measure.
She was Commander in Chief of an armed forces that commited torture and maiming, war crimes, summary executions, enacted policies of starvation, forced land clearances, incarceration without trial, and used concentration camps that were not so far off being death camps.
I respect other people's right to an opinion and a voice, and their right to be offended by my words.
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Post by Destry on Sept 12, 2022 21:33:10 GMT
Whatevs
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Post by Felice Landry on Sept 12, 2022 21:34:29 GMT
So BJ being Democratically elected is a good thing? Whatevs, life's too short. You're (deliberately?) missing the point, He was democratically elected as an MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip with a majority of just 7,210 votes. He was selected as Tory party leader ( and thereby PM) by 91,000 of Tory members (or less than 1% of the UK electorate). He was most certainly not democratically elected as Prime Minister. No I was saying that if there was an election for President BJ, I think, would have a very good chance of winning. |
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Post by Destry on Sept 12, 2022 21:40:52 GMT
You're (deliberately?) missing the point, He was democratically elected as an MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip with a majority of just 7,210 votes. He was selected as Tory party leader ( and thereby PM) by 91,000 of Tory members (or less than 1% of the UK electorate). He was most certainly not democratically elected as Prime Minister. No I was saying that if there was an election for President BJ, I think, would have a very good chance of winning. Okay, but i respectfully disagree. |
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Post by Sheep2 on Sept 12, 2022 21:41:34 GMT
Someone you don't like potentially winning an election isn't really a good reason for not holding an election.
I would like a president to be for show only. Like the Irish or German president, not like the US or French president.
I don't think Boris would win. The Tories turfed him out for the one unforgivable crime: being unpopular.
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Post by Chumbles on Sept 12, 2022 21:41:35 GMT
I don't have any objections to people mourning. That is entirely up to them. I do object to them stopping me doing things I want to (normal things. I am not a protester). Would me going to the football on Saturday really have hurt the feelings of a single monarchist? Not sure who said it, but football matches require a level of policing that is unsustainable with so much of police resources being needed to regulate the procession and lying in state of the poor old girl. You espouse democracy and it's pretty evident that the majority of the public are in favour of these tiresome shenanigans. Cricket went ahead simply because it doesn't have the same cadres of thugs that follow certain teams, so the level of policing required was much lower. However, I agree that the incessant vox pops and multi-broadcasting of the same stuff over and over again is annoying. It antagonises as much as it inspires. |
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Post by BabyfarkmcGeezak on Sept 12, 2022 21:43:39 GMT
New Thor film is alright.
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Post by Chumbles on Sept 12, 2022 21:46:00 GMT
So BJ being Democratically elected is a good thing? Whatevs, life's too short. You're (deliberately?) missing the point, He was democratically elected as an MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip with a majority of just 7,210 votes. He was selected as Tory party leader ( and thereby PM) by 91,000 of Tory members (or less than 1% of the UK electorate). He was most certainly not democratically elected as Prime Minister. And you are using a specious argument. No Prime Minister has ever been elected separately from the electoral mechanism adopted by each political party. |
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Post by Felice Landry on Sept 12, 2022 21:46:02 GMT
New Thor film is alright. Did you read my review? |
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Post by RollingEscargot on Sept 12, 2022 21:53:10 GMT
Apparently the average number of police officers at an EPL game is 63. 10 games = 630 rozzers. There are about 35,000 in the Met alone. I think the policing argument was an excuse.
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Post by Faceless on Sept 12, 2022 21:53:36 GMT
I've not watched any of this nonsense. No interest.
I did watched the latest episode of House of Tits & Dragons. It was a bit boring
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Post by Felice Landry on Sept 12, 2022 21:56:23 GMT
In a week or so we'll be back to fish puns.
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Post by Destry on Sept 12, 2022 22:00:30 GMT
You're (deliberately?) missing the point, He was democratically elected as an MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip with a majority of just 7,210 votes. He was selected as Tory party leader ( and thereby PM) by 91,000 of Tory members (or less than 1% of the UK electorate). He was most certainly not democratically elected as Prime Minister. And you are using a specious argument. No Prime Minister has ever been elected separately from the electoral mechanism adopted by each political party. Agreed re the party/PM appointment. But in a Republic we, the elctorate, would get to vote for our President. and not some minority subset of the governing party who happened to have paid their party dues. |
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Post by Chumbles on Sept 12, 2022 22:02:55 GMT
I'm taking my proto-cold, my quarrelsome bad temper and contrariness to bed and whatever sleep I can get. I have torquemada (the nurse) coming tomorrow... no escape. |
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Post by Sheep2 on Sept 12, 2022 22:04:48 GMT
I don't have any objections to people mourning. That is entirely up to them. I do object to them stopping me doing things I want to (normal things. I am not a protester). Would me going to the football on Saturday really have hurt the feelings of a single monarchist? Not sure who said it, but football matches require a level of policing that is unsustainable with so much of police resources being needed to regulate the procession and lying in state of the poor old girl. You espouse democracy and it's pretty evident that the majority of the public are in favour of these tiresome shenanigans. Cricket went ahead simply because it doesn't have the same cadres of thugs that follow certain teams, so the level of policing required was much lower. However, I agree that the incessant vox pops and multi-broadcasting of the same stuff over and over again is annoying. It antagonises as much as it inspires. That might be true for this Saturday. It wasn't the case last weekend. There were obviously a maximum of 5-10,000 outside Buckingham Palace. Most of those I suspect were in London anyway. Democracy and freedom. Democracy isn't the right to oppress people doing otherwise lawful things. |
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Post by Sheep2 on Sept 12, 2022 22:07:15 GMT
Otherwise once i'm in power i'll have everyone opposed to me shot. And make them pay for the privilege.
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Post by Destry on Sept 12, 2022 22:10:24 GMT
Otherwise once i'm in power i'll have everyone opposed to me shot. And make them pay for the privilege. I agree. Seems only fair. |
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Post by Sheep2 on Sept 12, 2022 22:11:29 GMT
Apparently the average number of police officers at an EPL game is 63. 10 games = 630 rozzers. There are about 35,000 in the Met alone. I think the policing argument was an excuse. It wasn't even an excuse the police put out. Just some weird post hoc justification made up by people to justify the PL sucking cuck. |
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Post by Destry on Sept 12, 2022 22:19:37 GMT
Cucksockers
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Post by Tuffers on Sept 12, 2022 22:24:59 GMT
"It's The Sun Wot Won It!"
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Post by lazybones on Sept 12, 2022 22:31:55 GMT
So BJ being Democratically elected is a good thing? Whatevs, life's too short. You're (deliberately?) missing the point, He was democratically elected as an MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip with a majority of just 7,210 votes. He was selected as Tory party leader ( and thereby PM) by 91,000 of Tory members (or less than 1% of the UK electorate). He was most certainly not democratically elected as Prime Minister. That is the way the system works though … I mean we don’t elect prime ministers. We elect local mps who elect prime ministers (sort of) And the Conservatives did go on to win an election with him as their leader, which is as much of a democratic mandate as you can get. Here anyway … |
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Post by lazybones on Sept 12, 2022 22:33:35 GMT
Arresting people for a bit of of Republican broohaha is a bit much.
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Post by lazybones on Sept 12, 2022 22:38:54 GMT
I actually don’t mind the Queen coverage. The Prince Phillip coverage felt worse. At least now there’s some bizarro pageantry to go with it. And a six hour drive down an A road.
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Post by BabyfarkmcGeezak on Sept 13, 2022 5:54:41 GMT
New Thor film is alright. Did you read my review? "Jumps from comedy to tradegy" I mean, it's very much a comedy about from that one thing. I liked the goats. |
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