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Post by tenthenemy on Jun 27, 2022 17:14:59 GMT
Been playing the time-loop game '12 Minutes' on and off for a few feeks, finally got to a couple of the endings last night and this afternoon. There's a big third act twist that I'm not really sure how I feel about. It was never going to have a 'Groundhog Day' Hollywood finale, but I'm feeling less than whelmed. The ending I found today boots you back to the very start of the story and bins your save game, so it seems unlikely I'll bother to see if it gets any better than that I remember everyone (including myself) being interested in that game when it was first announced and then a lot of folks expressing disappointment and disgust with the story once it was released. That's when I decided to stay away from it because I have plenty of better games in my backlog. I think your post has just cemented my decision. Pity, the premise looked so very promising. |
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Post by Sheep2 on Jun 27, 2022 17:15:17 GMT
It seems that there will be another year of government by misdirection, of holding power at any cost irrespective of the will, without the consent of the people. There will be a reckoning at the ballot box. The best thing about this is the relative size of the 25% and the 60% bars. |
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Post by Tuffers on Jun 27, 2022 17:20:09 GMT
The 60% bar is further away.
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Post by tenthenemy on Jun 27, 2022 17:22:57 GMT
It seems that there will be another year of government by misdirection, of holding power at any cost irrespective of the will, without the consent of the people. There will be a reckoning at the ballot box. The best thing about this is the relative size of the 25% and the 60% bars. Apparently the byline of that piece is "A.B. de Pfeffel Johnson". He's a journalist you might have heard of. Statistics isn't his strong suit. |
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Post by whatalark on Jun 27, 2022 17:33:02 GMT
I like life to be sweet. Like wise my cider. And like wise my wine, German Riesling, liquid cake
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Post by RollingEscargot on Jun 27, 2022 17:43:01 GMT
So Sheffield Hallam University is suspending its English Literature course because the government is penalising universities for low graduate employment. Because if graduates can't get professional jobs it's clearly the fault of the education they received and not, say, the government failing to create graduate jobs. But I thought that the promise before the Brexit referendum had been that the government would make up any funding shortfalls that were a result of leaving the EU to make sure that UK universities stayed "world class"? And I would have thought that a British university cancelling an English literature course is a bit of an embarrassment? And did those feet in ancient time? It's amazing how the Tories are all about giving everyone the choice to do whatever they want, until suddenly they're not. |
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Post by amipal on Jun 27, 2022 17:57:45 GMT
So Sheffield Hallam University is suspending its English Literature course because the government is penalising universities for low graduate employment. Because if graduates can't get professional jobs it's clearly the fault of the education they received and not, say, the government failing to create graduate jobs. But I thought that the promise before the Brexit referendum had been that the government would make up any funding shortfalls that were a result of leaving the EU to make sure that UK universities stayed "world class"? And I would have thought that a British university cancelling an English literature course is a bit of an embarrassment? And did those feet in ancient time? ”English” at a northern university? That’s an oxymoron, shirley? |
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Post by lazybones on Jun 27, 2022 18:05:08 GMT
I think the penalisation of courses also has something to do with students not completing a course. If more than 25 percent of students drop out and fewer than 60 percent are in ‘professional’ jobs or further study after 15 months then there’s a penalty.
The employability part of it’s bad but it only comes in if there’s the high drop-out rate. And 25 percent seems a pretty high threshold for that.
On the one hand students should be able to pay for any course they want, but on the other they could be being mugged off by courses that don’t deliver on any of their promises. If a course is so bad you have to leave before you’ve finished then you might feel you’ve been duped and the course should be penalised. On the other hand, maybe you wanted to leave because it was too hard. Penalising the course might be seen to encourage lower standards.
High drop-out rates mean something’s going wrong somewhere? Maybe with recruitment or course administration, or welfare.
I don’t know.
The commodification of HE is a bad thing. You don’t want students saddled with debt for courses they didn’t complete. But really you don’t want them saddled with debt. That’s my take.
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Post by Chumbles on Jun 27, 2022 18:17:34 GMT
I think the penalisation of courses also has something to do with students not completing a course. If more than 25 percent of students drop out and fewer than 60 percent are in ‘professional’ jobs or further study after 15 months then there’s a penalty. The employability part of it’s bad but it only comes in if there’s the high drop-out rate. And 25 percent seems a pretty high threshold for that. On the one hand students should be able to pay for any course they want, but on the other they could be being mugged off by courses that don’t deliver on any of their promises. If a course is so bad you have to leave before you’ve finished then you might feel you’ve been duped and the course should be penalised. On the other hand, maybe you wanted to leave because it was too hard. Penalising the course might be seen to encourage lower standards. High drop-out rates mean something’s going wrong somewhere? Maybe with recruitment or course administration, or welfare. I don’t know. The commodification of HE is a bad thing. You don’t want students saddled with debt for courses they didn’t complete. But really you don’t want them saddled with debt. That’s my take. For once I agree with everything you said LB |
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Post by Felice Landry on Jun 27, 2022 18:20:15 GMT
For once I agree with everything you said LB Same here. |
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Post by MrTiddles on Jun 27, 2022 18:26:14 GMT
I'm gonna have to fix the lock on the boot.
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Post by Felice Landry on Jun 27, 2022 18:36:02 GMT
The last few years have not been good for students and a high drop out rate is understandable.
This leads to the question, why have higher education for any subject other than that is demonstrably practical/useful for society?
I know that I feel happy if there are a few drunk poets getting a degree whilst declaiming the world is a pile of shit.
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Post by Faceless on Jun 27, 2022 18:45:56 GMT
Daily Duotrigordle #117 Guesses: 36/37 0️⃣7️⃣ 0️⃣3️⃣ 1️⃣4️⃣ 1️⃣5️⃣ 2️⃣8️⃣ 2️⃣9️⃣ 3️⃣6️⃣ 3️⃣0️⃣ 3️⃣2️⃣ 0️⃣4️⃣ 3️⃣1️⃣ 1️⃣6️⃣ 1️⃣7️⃣ 3️⃣3️⃣ 3️⃣5️⃣ 3️⃣4️⃣ 1️⃣0️⃣ 1️⃣3️⃣ 1️⃣8️⃣ 1️⃣9️⃣ 2️⃣6️⃣ 2️⃣4️⃣ 2️⃣0️⃣ 2️⃣7️⃣ 2️⃣3️⃣ 2️⃣2️⃣ 0️⃣9️⃣ 2️⃣1️⃣ 0️⃣6️⃣ 0️⃣5️⃣ 0️⃣8️⃣ 1️⃣1️⃣ duotrigordle.com/ |
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Post by MrTiddles on Jun 27, 2022 18:59:55 GMT
muffrat . There's a 10GB update for Slipper Elite 5. Thought you should know.
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Post by Felice Landry on Jun 27, 2022 19:08:56 GMT
Anyway too much serious stuff, off to cook dinner.
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Post by RollingEscargot on Jun 27, 2022 19:15:17 GMT
. This leads to the question, why have higher education for any subject other than that is demonstrably practical/useful for society? Because there is no standard by which that could be measured. Having an educated population is a civic good and an economic good. Students contribute huge amounts to the economy whatever they study (e.g. yesterday's G article on the economic impact of UCL simply existing). |
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Post by RollingEscargot on Jun 27, 2022 19:17:54 GMT
There was an IFS study a couple of years ago which showed that if you take out the purely vocational degrees (law and medicine), career earnings for UK students were determined by how far up the social scale they were at birth - not by the subject they studied at university.
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Post by RollingEscargot on Jun 27, 2022 19:18:18 GMT
Anyone fancy a game of conkers after maths?
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Post by MrTiddles on Jun 27, 2022 19:20:53 GMT
I like The Young Ones episode, where the toilet roll has 'Sociology degrees - please take one' written on it.
However, I am a moron.
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Post by Sheep2 on Jun 27, 2022 19:32:13 GMT
I know that I feel happy if there are a few drunk poets getting a degree whilst declaiming the world is a pile of shit. Shenguin did 2 (two) English degrees. |
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Post by lazybones on Jun 27, 2022 19:34:13 GMT
UCL might, by some strange calculus, make £10 billion for the UK economy. But the psychological toll it exacts, with its horrific Jeremy Bentham talisman, can never be counted.
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Post by muffrat on Jun 27, 2022 19:37:21 GMT
muffrat . There's a 10GB update for Sipper Elite 5. Thought you should know. Ooh. 10gb seems a lot for bug fixes, wonder if there's anything new... I've had 1 full play through as 'Rambo' Fairburne with a ludicrously high lethal/assault score, I'll definitely play it through again as a sneaky stealthy merciful Fairburne before I delete it. It'll have to wait til I've finished BF bad company though, I'd almost forgotten what an arcade treat that game was. Pleased with how well x360 games are upscaling on the series X |
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Post by RollingEscargot on Jun 27, 2022 19:40:31 GMT
UCL might, by some strange calculus, make £10 billion for the UK economy. But the psychological toll it exacts, with its horrific Jeremy Bentham talisman, can never be counted. It's strange that other UK institutions haven't followed UCL's lead in that respect. Perhaps the recent furore over public statues could be amicably resolved if they were all replaced with eldritch mummies? |
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Post by muffrat on Jun 27, 2022 19:50:50 GMT
Been playing the time-loop game '12 Minutes' on and off for a few feeks, finally got to a couple of the endings last night and this afternoon. There's a big third act twist that I'm not really sure how I feel about. It was never going to have a 'Groundhog Day' Hollywood finale, but I'm feeling less than whelmed. The ending I found today boots you back to the very start of the story and bins your save game, so it seems unlikely I'll bother to see if it gets any better than that I remember everyone (including myself) being interested in that game when it was first announced and then a lot of folks expressing disappointment and disgust with the story once it was released. That's when I decided to stay away from it because I have plenty of better games in my backlog. I think your post has just cemented my decision. Pity, the premise looked so very promising. I had been looking forward to it. A shame, because there was so much good stuff in there - the time loop mechanic was implemented beautifully, the acting was great, and the way the story revealed itself was brilliant, right up until the point where it wasn't. The unpleasant twist would have been distasteful enough if you were watching it in a movie, but it felt doubly so (and more) because of the way that you 'inhabit' a character when you play them in a game for 7 or so hours |
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Post by tenthenemy on Jun 27, 2022 20:15:25 GMT
Daily Duotrigordle #117 Guesses: 36/37 0️⃣7️⃣ 0️⃣3️⃣ 1️⃣4️⃣ 1️⃣5️⃣ 2️⃣8️⃣ 2️⃣9️⃣ 3️⃣6️⃣ 3️⃣0️⃣ 3️⃣2️⃣ 0️⃣4️⃣ 3️⃣1️⃣ 1️⃣6️⃣ 1️⃣7️⃣ 3️⃣3️⃣ 3️⃣5️⃣ 3️⃣4️⃣ 1️⃣0️⃣ 1️⃣3️⃣ 1️⃣8️⃣ 1️⃣9️⃣ 2️⃣6️⃣ 2️⃣4️⃣ 2️⃣0️⃣ 2️⃣7️⃣ 2️⃣3️⃣ 2️⃣2️⃣ 0️⃣9️⃣ 2️⃣1️⃣ 0️⃣6️⃣ 0️⃣5️⃣ 0️⃣8️⃣ 1️⃣1️⃣ duotrigordle.com/I don't get it. Tried it and failed (I think) by having -1 guesses left after completing 28/32. Can't see a share button and can't interpret those numbers. I'm waiting for the first English department to offer a course in Applied Wordle Studies. |
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