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Post by MrTiddles on Jan 5, 2022 14:33:21 GMT
The problem with Keir Starmer is that he doesn't have kind eyes. He has tiny surprised eyes. Like a surprised butcher.Also known as Mr. Tiddles after 'a night out' I'm never going round to Destry 's again for drinks.
Scenes.
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Post by RollingEscargot on Jan 5, 2022 14:38:17 GMT
I've got a big book of Shackleton photos. It's good. They did an exhibition of them at the 'Discovery' a few years ago. The Kenneth Branagh telly series was pretty good too.
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Post by lazybones on Jan 5, 2022 14:48:53 GMT
I'll be honest - I've no idea who should be eligible for Brittanic Greatness.
Who knows?
I suppose someone who did good things and influenced other people to do good things - to a great degree.
Can't think of anyone.
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Post by gongfarmer on Jan 5, 2022 14:54:35 GMT
I have the audiobook of 'South' in my collection from the dark days when i had a daily commute to endure. Well worth a read/listen if you get the chance. Proper adventuring.
Glad to hear they are going looking for what might be left of the Endurance, as long as it doesn't turn into a Boris-fest of British pluck. The book makes it clear these were men haunted with guilt by their 'escape' from the horrors of Europe in 1916, even while facing a very different death amongst the ice floes.
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Post by lazybones on Jan 5, 2022 15:23:58 GMT
I mean maybe ... You could say that ... Emmeline Pankhurst was the Greatest Briton, on account of being active when the influence of the British Empire was at its highest and for championing women's right to vote. Although she was a vandal and a hooligan. Pretty much a terrorist ...
Actually - when the rest of the world was going to war, Shackleton was going to Antarctica. Maybe there's something to be said for that.
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Post by BabyfarkmcGeezak on Jan 5, 2022 15:38:50 GMT
From Wikipedia - Shackleton died heavily in debt and presumably left his wife and 3 children (one of whom was 9 years old, don't know about the others) penniless.
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Post by MrTiddles on Jan 5, 2022 15:54:07 GMT
I'm waiting for Tuffers to say Phillip Schofield, then I will have justifiable cause. |
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Post by dakylosaurus419 on Jan 5, 2022 16:16:22 GMT
Noel Edmonds?
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Post by Shenguin on Jan 5, 2022 16:17:41 GMT
FREEDOM!
Freedom tastes suspiciously like draught Guinness.
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Post by BabyfarkmcGeezak on Jan 5, 2022 16:25:07 GMT
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Post by Sheep2 on Jan 5, 2022 16:26:09 GMT
FREEDOM! Freedom tastes suspiciously like draught Guinness. You'll end up locked in the house with a four day hangover. Calling it now. |
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Post by Chumbles on Jan 5, 2022 16:30:29 GMT
Francis Drake has to be Greatest Briton on account of his magic drum. Does Shackleton's drum beat in times of national need? I think not. A hero? Oh do fuck off, deal boy! Drake was a slaver and a privateer; a great seaman yes, but unquestionably venal. So you model yourself after him? |
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Post by lazybones on Jan 5, 2022 16:31:57 GMT
Francis Drake has to be Greatest Briton on account of his magic drum. Does Shackleton's drum beat in times of national need? I think not. A hero? Oh do fuck off, deal boy! Drake was a slaver and a privateer; a great seaman yes, but unquestionably venal. So you model yourself after him? But he had a magic drum? |
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Post by Chumbles on Jan 5, 2022 16:34:12 GMT
A hero? Oh do fuck off, deal boy! Drake was a slaver and a privateer; a great seaman yes, but unquestionably venal. So you model yourself after him? But he had a magic drum? I'm afraid not! |
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Post by amipal on Jan 5, 2022 16:35:45 GMT
Greatest Briton? Mr Kipling.
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Post by lazybones on Jan 5, 2022 16:43:11 GMT
The problem is that the further back in time you go the worst people were - in that they had beliefs and did things that we wouldn't think acceptable today. So to arrive at the Greatest Briton you have to take the year at which Britain was at it's most influential and balance that with the most modern of years - 2022. Then you find an individual who was active and doing good things at this midpoint.
In 1913 the British Empire was pretty much at it's height. Halfway between now and then you had 1967.
BOOM
It's Paul McCartney.
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Post by RollingEscargot on Jan 5, 2022 17:03:23 GMT
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Post by RollingEscargot on Jan 5, 2022 17:05:16 GMT
David Beckham at 33, Bono at 86. Carved in stone for all time.
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Post by gongfarmer on Jan 5, 2022 17:15:12 GMT
Definitely some rum 'uns in that list.
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Post by lazybones on Jan 5, 2022 17:18:55 GMT
Michael Crawford at 17.
34 places above King Arthur. 35 above Florence Nightingale
Jesus. Enoch Powell at 55.
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Post by crankcaller on Jan 5, 2022 17:19:09 GMT
No, it was a frayed knot. |
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Post by Destry on Jan 5, 2022 17:19:33 GMT
The question was settled in 2002 by the Great British Public. The Great British Public are fucking idiots. |
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Post by stxdpr on Jan 5, 2022 17:25:25 GMT
Enoch Powell then Marie stopes seem some interesting choices, thought Jimmy Savill might have been in good company there.
So they got off breaking the statue of the slaver.
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Post by amipal on Jan 5, 2022 17:40:11 GMT
The problem is that the further back in time you go the worst people were - in that they had beliefs and did things that we wouldn't think acceptable today. So to arrive at the Greatest Briton you have to take the year at which Britain was at it's most influential and balance that with the most modern of years - 2022. Then you find an individual who was active and doing good things at this midpoint. In 1913 the British Empire was pretty much at it's height. Halfway between now and then you had 1967. BOOM It's Paul McCartney. I “liked” this post as I read the initial argument you put forward. And then instantly removes it when I read McCartney. |
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Post by lazybones on Jan 5, 2022 17:50:30 GMT
The problem is that the further back in time you go the worst people were - in that they had beliefs and did things that we wouldn't think acceptable today. So to arrive at the Greatest Briton you have to take the year at which Britain was at it's most influential and balance that with the most modern of years - 2022. Then you find an individual who was active and doing good things at this midpoint. In 1913 the British Empire was pretty much at it's height. Halfway between now and then you had 1967. BOOM It's Paul McCartney. I “liked” this post as I read the initial argument you put forward. And then instantly removes it when I read McCartney. |
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